Monday, January 10, 2011

Myers on Muslims

Controversial journalist kevin Myers wrote the below article in The Irish Independent last week. Not surprisingly it has caused a bit of a stir.

YOU really can take your pick from the interconnected headlines of the past fortnight: the church-massacres of Christians in Egypt and Iraq by al-Qa'ida, and the murder of the governor of the Punjab, followed by a petition of support for his killer from 500 "moderate" Islamic scholars in Pakistan.

Closer to home there were the terrorist conspiracies in Denmark, Sweden and Britain, and the revelation that while the Christian population in Britain fell by two million in four years, the Muslim population there increased by 74pc to 2.9 million since 2001 (yes, the very year when Islamophobia supposedly became endemic).

But surely the most pathetic headline of all was the one announcing the Greek government's decision to build a 128-mile wall to keep out "illegal immigrants".

What a treasury of intellectual dishonesty and cultural cowardice is embodied in that term "illegal immigrant". For if Greece had a border with Germany, would it erect a barrier to keep illegal Germans out? Or English? Or Swedes? Unlikely somehow.

For some immigrants are more immigrant than others. What the Greeks are keeping out are their old friends from Anatolia, with whom they have been conducting a racial, religious and cultural struggle for over a thousand years. These used to be called Mussulman and later Ottoman and later still Turkish. Now they're called "illegal immigrants", in a nice congenial pretence that the illegal immigrant in Thessaloniki is much the same as the illegal immigrant in Arizona.

Which is certainly true, to a degree. The opening decade of the 21st Century has seen the clarification of the divide between Birth Control societies and those where Nature Inevitably Takes Its Course. The BC societies of the USA and the EU are facing increasing pressure to take in the population increases from NITIC countries along their southern borders: African countries double their population every 25 years, whereas Europe's population has gone up by 50pc in 90 years.

This is unquestionably a major issue for western (once-Christian) civilisations: how many immigrants should they admit? The even more important issue, concealed in the Greek government's wall-plan, is this: how many Muslim immigrants can any society take, and yet retain the qualities that made it attractive to Muslims in the first place?

Now aside from "refugees" from one Muslim country to its neighbour, there's little sign of mass-population movement from one Islamic country to another. Bangladeshis, Pakistanis. Afghans, Somalis, may operate as guest workers in Saudi Arabia, where they have no rights, but if they seek a brighter economic future, they move their families to the Christian/secular countries of Greater Europe, which includes North America and Australasia.

And of course, if the immigrants then conform with local norms -- as British Hindus and Sikhs have usually done -- then there is usually no long-term problem. The result is a cultural enrichment and fusion in which everyone gains.

This is simply not true of Muslim immigration. Not merely is there not a single stable, prosperous Muslim democracy in the world, free of terrorism and fundamentalism, there is no society that has received large numbers of Muslims that has not soon been confronted by an Islamic defiance of existing societal norms. This defiance can be cultural, in which dissident dress code is sought as a religious right; or educational, in which Muslims are raised within their own autonomous school system; or legal, with a demand for Sharia law; or insurrectionary, in which local Muslims opt for terrorist jihad against the state which admitted them.

No European country -- not one -- that has admitted large numbers of Muslims has been spared any of these outcomes.

No European country -- not one -- that has admitted Hindus has had to face any comparable problem.

THE EU's response has been to ignore what it finds uncongenial to talk about, as meanwhile dogmatic "multiculturalists" silence sceptics with the perverse gagging laws that have arisen in every European country. These make it almost impossible for Europeans to defend European values without being called "racist" or an "Islamophobe".

Perversity then heaps upon perversity, because the political group that has most to lose from the political triumph of Islam, feminism, is totally silent at its inroads. Somali girls are circumcised; polygamous Muslim men are given state-allowances for all their wives and children; and subordinate gynaecostans are created for women in British cities, in which the burqa (body covering), hijab (head covering) and niqab (face veil) are becoming almost mandatory. Meanwhile, girls are covertly being withdrawn from education and prepared for forced marriage. Yet the feminists stay silent.

It might very well be that Islam, with its unapologetic determination to spread its norms wherever it goes, will prove to be the more robust and vigorous civilisation. So be it. In which case, might the 128-mile Greek Wall not simply join the Maginot Line and the Great Wall of China as yet another historically doomed defensive line? Well, not quite.

There is still a China, still a France. But what about the great Graeco-Roman Christian civilisations that once existed across Asia Minor and North Africa, from Anatolia through Syria and Tunisia and on to Casablanca, and which failed to defend themselves against militant Islam? What remains of them? The remains remain.

- Kevin Myers

A Few Points of My Own

Kevin Myers has disappointed me of late. In truth I think he is becoming a controversy junkie. Furthermore, he makes some points in the above article that are at best, a bit odd. Not least of which are his views on the great Graeco-Roman civilisation. His article however does begin with an accurate account of recent outrages committed against Christians in the Arab world as well as the insane attempts at Jihadist mass murder in Scandinavia.

However, his comparisons between the birth control nations and the "let nature take its course" nations is something which makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. The charge of over breeding is one that has been laid at many ethnicity's that have been the subject of discrimination in the past, including the Irish. And while I agree that the changing demographics of Europe is a cause for concern, this is an immigration issue, not a birth control issue. The argument was made in bad taste.

The assertion by Myers that Muslims assimilate less well than other immigrants and that host nations who take in large numbers of Muslims will have to deal with "Islamic defiance of existing societal norms" is undoubtedly true. This happens primarily in European countries with one million plus Muslims, especially if there is a concentration from one or two different Islamic nations.

I don't accept the point by Myers that it is impossible to defend European values without being accused of racism. To me, this is whinging. I don't care if somebody calls me a racist because I know I'm not. I certainly will not retreat from the debate for fear of such an accusation. I will never be intimidated out of aggressively and apologetically confronting that element within Islam, that is undemocratic and promotes disharmony, particularly when it emerges in Europe and especially in my own country.

Of course his final point goes without saying. The inability of many liberal feminists to speak out against the oppression of women in Muslim countries is shameful, utterly shameful.


Anonymous said...

It seems to me that you in fact agree with 3 out of his 5 main points. I agree with them, and maybe the other two also. I am normally very tolerant when it comes to immigration. But we cannot ignore the fact that muslims seem to be hell bent on causing violence and disorder in western societies. They must conform to our values if they expect to be integrated into our society. Or leave. They are not so agreeable to the slightest misgiving perpetrated by westerners on their shores. Muslims: Conform or exit.


Ted Leddy said...


Fair observations. Although I must point out that these problems are by and large absent in Ireland. Furthermore, I do not believe Muslims have to assimilate in the sense that they must embrace Irish culture. I have no problem with Muslims living conservative life styles. However they must conform to our legal system, (no hint of Sharia) and work practises. In fairness, in Ireland they do. But I must say, I am very alarmed at the situation in France and Britain where Muslim minorities appear to be dominating areas in certain cities and virtually declaring them Muslim land.