Thursday, June 9, 2011

IDF Kill 20

Syrian protesters attempt to cross the border into the Golan Heights

While I was away recently enjoying my brief four day tour of the Balkans world events continued to unfold at a rapid pace. The Arab Spring appears to have claimed its third dictator in Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh. Although he has not yet officially stepped down as President it is unlikely he will ever return to Yemen. Meanwhile in the Golan Heights Israeli forces killed 20 Syrians trying to cross the border into the disputed territory during "Naksa" (defeat) commemorations. While it was clearly another stunt orchestrated by Damascus it nevertheless appears that live ammunition was used on unarmed men. I am surprised that Israel, a nation which so much experience at crowd control would let this happen. It is now more important than ever to show the rising masses in the Arab World that in a democracy where accountability is everything, these things are done differently. The Arab dictators are daily massacring people in order to further one simple objective which is to cling to power. Israel killed people in the Golan Heights as a matter of national defence which should be distinguished. Nevertheless using live ammo on unarmed demonstrators is very rarely justifiable. This latest incident was not such a case.

Israeli soldiers prepare to fire live ammunition at Syrian demonstrators.

23 comments:

thesystemworks said...

My position from the start of this nonsense has been:

1. Buy loads of pig shit from US industrial hog farms, which have vast lakes of the stuff.

2. Spray it on the Islamoleftists to knock the glamour out of their latest adventures.

thesystemworks said...

By the way, I hear some protesters were killed by land mines on the Syrian side from starting fires or something.

Ted Leddy said...

TSW

I have also heard that the demonstrators were chanting Assad's name. But on the issue of crowd control we must expect more from the IDF. I know it is not easy but actions motivated by hatred of the other side must not be allowed to become acceptable.

thesystemworks said...

Activists wont write plays or tearful, cheesy ballads about themselves such as 'My Name is ISM Activist X' or 'The Lonesome Death of ISM Activist Y' if all they do is get covered in pig faeces. It will turn devout Muslims off and Western agitators won't boast about their experiences to their buddies at SOAS.

Paul said...

I think TSW is correct. I can't imagine a play called 'my name is Rachel Corrie and I seriously need a bath' being a runaway success!

thesystemworks said...

Does anyone know where UNDOF has been during all this? No news sources I've read so far even mention them.

Anonymous said...

So the Jews fire on unarmed protesters, killing some and maiming others and you justify that as 'defense'??? The sooner the better we see the demise of the vile illigitimate state of Isreal and all its dispicable supporters, wherever they be, the better. We look forward to the day when neither rock nor tree will provide shelter to the cursed ones.

thesystemworks said...

You will never have your illegitimate Caliphate back, anonymous. Now go fornicate with a nine-year old in some mostly illiterate Muslim backwater like your Prophet. Ponder why the Muslim nations have produced barely a book of note in centuries. When you realise it is because of people like yourself, please crawl under a rock and die.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Mr Leddy who readily censures anti-Semitic comments will dutifully remove yours Mr System. That said, we have time on our hands, what is written will surely come to pass.

thesystemworks said...

You may fool some Western leftists with your tripe, anonymous, but you are dealing with more intelligent people now. Play the victim all you want, but I claim the backwardness of Muslim countries comes from types like you, who would embarrass the likes of Rumi if he were alive. And there is nothing wrong with saying Muhammad married a pre-pubescent girl, which happens today in many Islamic societies.

Ted Leddy said...

Anonymous

Yes, I believe that shooting at hostile demonstrators who are attempting to enter your country is much less sinister than gunning down peaceful pro democracy activists who are demonstrating against the tyranny of their rulers.

Anonymous said...

There is nothing more sinister than the insidious and malicious ideology of democracy. Muslim rulers should squash any and all attempts to implant this evil ideology in their lands.
As you have no problems mowing down those who infringe the borders of a land, no more whining when Jewish settlers meet their just desserts - OK!

Gary said...

Anonymous,

Do you not realize that extremist rhetoric such as yours only serves to marginalize and make you irrelevant?

As for democracy being evil, well, the difference between your preferred form of Islamic government and democracy is that in a democracy you can make your comments without consequence and in open debate. Under your ideal Islamic government such comments could easily get one killed. Tell me, which form of government is truly evil?

Anonymous said...

So you can bleat all you want while still having your rights trodden underfoot in a democracy and that somehow makes it better - you are very silly Gary. I yearn for real tangible rights, those that the Islamic state will bring, not the foolish uselessness you speak of.
As for extremist rhetoric, Mr Leddy has in effect excused Jewish murderers because in his words, 'shooting at hostile demonstrators (anyone who upholds the right to Palestinian return is considered hostile by Jews) who are attempting to enter your country (they were on land that according to the UN is disputed, so hardly Jewish) is much less sinister than gunning down peaceful pro democracy activists (who are armed to the teeth, torch buildings and fire on soldiers)but you of course must adhere to the overt Islamophobic and anti-Muslim sentiment on this hate site.

Gary said...

Not surprisingly, anonymous, your facts and premises are simply wrong. I do not know if this is on purpose or from an extremist clouded perspective. It does not matter. It just makes open and honest debate impossible, undesirable and unproductive -which, by the way, seems to be a common ailment among extremists of all stripes.

Ted Leddy said...

Anonymously Egan

I hear you're back in Saudi Arabia.

How is that working out for you ? You can lambast democracy all you want but I will remind you of it when you beg the Irish Embassy in Riyadh to come to your aid after the Saudis lock you up !

thesystemworks said...

Egan is hilarious. Talking about killing the 'cursed ones' one minute and 'human rights' the next. Its the same bag of tricks used by Hamas and similar jihadists. That may fool Boyd-Barrett, but not readers of this 'hate-site'.

Anonymous said...

This poor Egan fellow must have really gotten to you Mr Leddy! But do us all a favour and think beyond an individual.

Gary - your fallicious comments have effectively closed the door to honest debate.

Gary said...

Anonymous,
My "fallacious comments"? Wow, that would really get a rise out of me -if they had come from some one with even a small amount of relevance.
Gary

Tom Carew said...

How many times have those who seemed to be Arab *civilians* but who were in fact suicide-bombers [ both women and men ] detonated their weapons at IDF Checkpoints ? What right has any IDF commander to allow people to storm a Border where fences have been erected precisely to prevent suicide-attacks ? The duty of the IDF is to protect the targets of suicide-bombers, Arab and Jewish citizens, visitors and themselves, not to risk their life from hostile elements who may include suicide-bombers.

Anonymous said...

Tom - there is NO border, just occupation and those who resist have the right to use whatever means are at their disposal to remove the occupiers.

Ted Leddy said...

Tom

Fair point but that does not excuse the IDF of its responsability to have effective procedures for dealing with unarmed hostile demonstrators.

Rob said...

I think the IDF were right. They weren't just hostile demonstrators but trying to break an international boundary until such time as a peace deal is in place, as defined as such by UN resolution 242. The toll was high although the exact number is unverified and may be exaggerated. Yet the demonstrators were repeatedly warned not to cross. Warning shots were fired and a number were reportedly killed due to land mines. We can expect more of these events if a Palestinian state is accepted at the UN in Sept